Society Steve Bannon Loves This "Shockingly Racist" Book

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Zeph

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I think he'd laugh at your victimizing definition of it.
It's not my definition. I purposefully looked for a conservative outlet to explain the alt-right to avoid any liberal lies or communist propaganda claims.
 
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I guess the Turner Diaries also raised important questions on how to respond to a civil uprising, too? I think it's possible to have intelligent discussion about immigration without using a book that considers the solution be a Final Solution, don't you?

I haven't read the book but there's a variety of reviews there in the mainstream.

Regarding nuance I think this important when you and I are talking here. Is it useful in bringing focus to your cause or making a social commentary via literary work?


Should a modest proposal simply have actually been modest? Should any number of dystopian future novels been less extreme on the spectrum, and more in line with a likely future?


Also, I can't watch the video here right now. TYT?
Aren't those guys genocide deniers?
 

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It's not my definition. I purposefully looked for a conservative outlet to explain the alt-right to avoid any liberal lies or communist propaganda claims.
A clickbait article from The Daily Wire?
 

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I haven't read the book but there's a variety of reviews there in the mainstream.

Regarding nuance I think this important when you and I are talking here. Is it useful in bringing focus to your cause or making a social commentary via literary work?


Should a modest proposal simply have actually been modest? Should any number of dystopian future novels been less extreme on the spectrum, and more in line with a likely future?


Also, I can't watch the video here right now. TYT?
Aren't those guys genocide deniers?
Literary license. We should have that here. :D
 

Zeph

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I haven't read the book but there's a variety of reviews there in the mainstream.

Regarding nuance I think this important when you and I are talking here. Is it useful in bringing focus to your cause or making a social commentary via literary work?
Well the context he was using it in was that he was pointing to the refugee crisis in Europe and saying look 'The Camp of Saints' is happening. In essence saying that non-whites are invading to take over and sleep with all the white women, as in the book.

Should a modest proposal simply have actually been modest? Should any number of dystopian future novels been less extreme on the spectrum, and more in line with a likely future?
I'm not saying it shouldn't exist, but that saying the Matrix is happening when they create an AI which can beat someone at a game, isn't helpful and is fearmongering.

Also, I can't watch the video here right now. TYT?
Aren't those guys genocide deniers?
I've heard that claim before, although I've never seen any proof to the claim, can you provide any? It's also possible that Cenk, the anchor, was mistaken, as the Armenian genocide certainly took place, however, there is a lot of propaganda about it not happening in Turkey and amongst Turks. Definitely not their finest hour.
 

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Apart from the travel ban, because that's been talked to death, give me a few more examples of racist policy Bannon will likely implement during his time serving as advisor to the President?
 

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“It’s been almost a Camp of the Saints-type invasion into Central and then Western and Northern Europe,” he said in October 2015"}}">October 2015.

“The whole thing in Europe is all about immigration,” he said in January 2016"}}">January 2016. “It’s a global issue today — this kind of global Camp of the Saints.”

“It’s not a migration,” he said later that January"}}">later that January. “It’s really an invasion. I call it the Camp of the Saints.”

This Stunningly Racist French Novel Is How Steve Bannon Explains The World | The Huffington Post
 

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Apart from the travel ban, because that's been talked to death, give me a few more examples of racist policy Bannon will likely implement during his time serving as advisor to the President?
Wait a minute while I get my mind reader and travel to the White House. I'll report back soon. Wish me luck.
 

IschKabibble

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That's the book. If you are saying the refugee crisis is camp of the saints, then, yes, that's what you're saying.
No. You added the bit about white women sleeping with non-whites to sensationalize your point. Or maybe it's just what you read on HuffPo.

Per Wikipedia:


Is France not having a cultural identity crisis at the moment? Is what he said wrong?
 

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Wait a minute while I get my mind reader and travel to the White House. I'll report back soon. Wish me luck.
...which goes to my original point. Let's wait until Trump's White House does something actually racist before we claim the sky is falling.
 

Zeph

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No. You added the bit about white women sleeping with non-whites to sensationalize your point. Or maybe it's just what you read on HuffPo.

Per Wikipedia:


Is France not having a cultural identity crisis at the moment? Is what he said wrong?
So you believe the refugee crisis wasn't because of the Syrian war, but was because they want to invade and take over Europe?
 

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When did I suggest that?
That's what Steve Bannon is suggesting by comparing the refugee crisis to Camp of the Saints. Literally saying it's Camp of the Saints. To which you said 'Is what he said wrong?'. Which, yes, what he said was explicitly wrong. It was not an invasion to take over Europe. Suggesting it was is racist fearmongering.
 

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That's what Steve Bannon is suggesting by comparing the refugee crisis to Camp of the Saints. Literally saying it's Camp of the Saints. To which you said 'Is what he said wrong?'. Which, yes, what he said was explicitly wrong. It was not an invasion to take over Europe. Suggesting it was is racist fearmongering.
Is it really fear mongering if the cultural imbalance is tangible?