im not familiar with the other two
fuck the kavanaugh rapist tho. just like trump and biden
america is a joke
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fuck the kavanaugh rapist tho. just like trump and biden
america is a joke
The difference is only a couple of hundred people.
Less if they have their shit together and aren't idiots recording their idiocy for all time.
Less if they have their shit together and aren't idiots recording their idiocy for all time.
so an unarmed mob of a couple thousand people can overthrow the US gov't by disrupting a ceremony?
why are we stuck with this shit gov't Of the Incorporated, By the Incorporated, For the Incorporated?
As per the article I posted earlier in the thread. January 6th could not have stopped the democratic process.
Wouldn't have mattered. There's no mechanism for them to stop it from happening.
I feel like more people and more organization, it could've gotten a lot worse.
Worse than Don Jr thought it already was.
He knew what his father had encouraged and set in motion. He knew it looked awful and was an embarrassing capper to his four year circus.
Interrupting a ceremony. Let's look at that.
More people, ceremony interrupted. People have been assaulted, there's a police response, people barricade themselves into offices and whatnot, it's a riot.
Disturbances become riots on a knife's edge tipping point.
I don't want to see that worldwide humiliation again.
We're supposed to be a Nation of Laws, not some bunch of clowns following a fat moron into a sewer.
if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
the amount of organization and people is orders of magnitude, it's not even worth discussing it as a "what if"...
this would have been an insurrection if it wasn't.
EDIT - "what if?" cuts both ways...what if the police deployed tear gas? what if they'd requested the presence of the National Guard in the week or days before? What if they hadn't opened the doors and let people in?
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im not saying they overturned the government. they failed. it was an attempted insurrection
Well for a start, nobody broke any windows or beat any cops to death during the Kavanaugh hearings.
And there was none of this.
And the Kavanaugh hearings were open to the public. Nobody broke through any security barricades to get there.
But yeah....... both sides. Just exactly the same thing.
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oh - more performance theater at the Jan 6 thing?Well for a start, nobody broke any windows or beat any cops to death during the Kavanaugh hearings.
And there was none of this.
And the Kavanaugh hearings were open to the public. Nobody broke through any security barricades to get there.
But yeah....... both sides. Just exactly the same thing.
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what's the difference between "Open To the Public" and when the police Open The Doors To the Public?
no cops died as a result of the Jan 6 riot.
I'm pointing out that they couldn't have.
not directly. but if Pence didn't sign off due to the pressures, then shit would get weird
if he had sent it back to state legislatures, as Trump and his team was telling Pence to do, then Trump would have claimed to still be the president while all those states did their audits
the country is in a bad place due to trump. but if Pence hadn't done his ceremonial duty, we could be in a much worse place
No, sir. Not how it works. I linked am article this morning. The vice president is just ceremonial. Him ratifying or not makes no difference.
they were still attempting to do an insurreciton whether one could be accomplished or not
here's an example. let's say Q @Qat thinks that he can turn into an Elf if he shoots me in the face with an arrow. and he does so.
there was no chance that he would ascend into an Elf. but that was his goal regardless
the people didnt break in to check out the building. they didnt break in to delay the ceremony a couple hours or days. they broke in with the attempt to prevent the PResident of the United States from being confirmed
its kind of a big deal
here's a better example:
lets say people set up bombs all around that building and blew the entire thing up and killed every congress person inside
would that have meant Trump was president? no
but is it an insurrection? yeah, i think so
lets say people set up bombs all around that building and blew the entire thing up and killed every congress person inside
would that have meant Trump was president? no
but is it an insurrection? yeah, i think so
Oh damn, I thought you tagged me here as living reminder against all the "without dem gunz nothing could have ever happened" hindsight shitposts. Coz the peaceful revolution happened not that long ago right the fuck here, ya know. It's prolly hard to fathom for gun nerds tho.
Either way, I sure as hell can shoot a bow as well as an elf! So I might as well believe I am one.
i just realized, why am i having a debate over the word "insurrection" lol
is the word just something between TMMACer opinions?
or is the word important since laws vary between insurrection vs non-insurrection violations?
is the word just something between TMMACer opinions?
or is the word important since laws vary between insurrection vs non-insurrection violations?
Why does everyone leave out the Dwarves?
We're stout and loyal, a proud people. Good with an ax.
Plus, I make good money doing niche porn.
We're stout and loyal, a proud people. Good with an ax.
Plus, I make good money doing niche porn.
who is your favorite dwarf?
Q @Qat - question for you too
most say Gimli from Lord of the Rings
but as a big Drizzt Do'Urden fan, im team Bruenor Battlehammer all the way
The problem with both of your analogies is that nothing close to either of those things happened. What we saw was pretty obviously a dog catching a car and then not having the slightest idea as to what to do with it.
does the word have any actual importance in terms of what is going to happen to them tho?
if this is just a debate on TMMAC as to the proper verbiage, then i will say 100% its not an insurrection and move on lol
Like in a court of law? Probably. The security state is going to take these motherfuckers over the coals and use this to turn the war on terror inward to people who disagree with the government. The age of the "Domestic War on Terror" is upon us
Peter Dinklage
that's not what happened, and it wasn't an insurrection.
it was a mostly peaceful demonstration.